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	<title>Comments on: The Rock Renaissance Is In the Metal Scene</title>
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		<title>By: mkanderson</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris:

Great points. I only pointed out the obvious because I wanted to just explain where I was coming from. Mainstream rock is now pop. It&#039;s all mixed up. You&#039;re right about metal going against the grain historically. I think that now it&#039;s the one place where musicians feel free to play around. Some of it works and some of it not so much. But I like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris:</p>
<p>Great points. I only pointed out the obvious because I wanted to just explain where I was coming from. Mainstream rock is now pop. It&#039;s all mixed up. You&#039;re right about metal going against the grain historically. I think that now it&#039;s the one place where musicians feel free to play around. Some of it works and some of it not so much. But I like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ve approached two separate things and welded them into one post. Part A - the industry and &quot;selling out&quot; stuff - true for pop music which has been fairly amorphous for a long time. The idea of bands being pimped by labels for their demographic skew is getting to be old news, though, and the primary reason why labels are failing. It&#039;s easy to churn out a big hit but much harder to find a sustainable hit-making artist, so they go for the quick hit now. Especially in an age where you can buy just the one song (or ringtone). 

As for metal (part B): it seems to be expanding and growing again. It does seem to be fueled by musicians and fans who are genuinely engrossed in the music and the culture, not just by whatever is on the radio at work. It takes some searching to find these bands. Some of it has gotten old, but the bands you name seem to be pushing forward. It feels like progress, anyhow. 

That said, metal has almost always been at odds with the industry. Metallica got mega-famous with virtually no radio play or advertising. This is a good example of  &quot;selling out&quot;, too. I&#039;m convinced that excessive money has a way of putting out the competitive fire that lots of young bands burn with to get noticed. Maybe it&#039;s selling out, maybe it&#039;s just that you screamed to be heard, then you were heard. Now what? I know, I&#039;ll buy a house.

Also, &quot;alternative&quot; has virtually no relevance these days, so most of the same kind of music is now labeled &quot;indie&quot;. Indie music is pretty popular. Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#039;ve approached two separate things and welded them into one post. Part A &#8211; the industry and &#034;selling out&#034; stuff &#8211; true for pop music which has been fairly amorphous for a long time. The idea of bands being pimped by labels for their demographic skew is getting to be old news, though, and the primary reason why labels are failing. It&#039;s easy to churn out a big hit but much harder to find a sustainable hit-making artist, so they go for the quick hit now. Especially in an age where you can buy just the one song (or ringtone). </p>
<p>As for metal (part B): it seems to be expanding and growing again. It does seem to be fueled by musicians and fans who are genuinely engrossed in the music and the culture, not just by whatever is on the radio at work. It takes some searching to find these bands. Some of it has gotten old, but the bands you name seem to be pushing forward. It feels like progress, anyhow. </p>
<p>That said, metal has almost always been at odds with the industry. Metallica got mega-famous with virtually no radio play or advertising. This is a good example of  &#034;selling out&#034;, too. I&#039;m convinced that excessive money has a way of putting out the competitive fire that lots of young bands burn with to get noticed. Maybe it&#039;s selling out, maybe it&#039;s just that you screamed to be heard, then you were heard. Now what? I know, I&#039;ll buy a house.</p>
<p>Also, &#034;alternative&#034; has virtually no relevance these days, so most of the same kind of music is now labeled &#034;indie&#034;. Indie music is pretty popular. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: mkanderson</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: I&#039;ll admit Abacab is a great (in the true sense of the word) album. Very creative. But I think deep down in Collins&#039; guts, a wimpy, Disney, light adult rock dude was waiting to pop out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: I&#039;ll admit Abacab is a great (in the true sense of the word) album. Very creative. But I think deep down in Collins&#039; guts, a wimpy, Disney, light adult rock dude was waiting to pop out.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first his solo stuff was different (for him) and kind of fun. Then it turned sappy and started infecting Genesis. (I know they really started to change when Hackett left, but I think they were still more of prog band than a top 40 band until the Genesis album.)

Btw, love the post, and dead on about Nickelback and 3 Doors Down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first his solo stuff was different (for him) and kind of fun. Then it turned sappy and started infecting Genesis. (I know they really started to change when Hackett left, but I think they were still more of prog band than a top 40 band until the Genesis album.)</p>
<p>Btw, love the post, and dead on about Nickelback and 3 Doors Down.</p>
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		<title>By: mkanderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mkanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: Really as a solo guy. However, I think he&#039;s always had that in him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: Really as a solo guy. However, I think he&#039;s always had that in him.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How far back are you going with Phil Collins? If early Genesis is light, adult-rock then Coltrane is smooth Jazz.</description>
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		<title>By: Twitted by maceo87</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by maceo87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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